Be Still My Heart 2.0 – Arsene Wenger

By: Steve | January 22nd, 2009

Hala Madrid! This is a quick post as I’m off to bed, but ESPN Soccernet and Yahoo! Eurosport are both reporting that Florentino Perez will target Arsene Wenger as his new manager if (when?) he is elected president of Los Blancos again. Never mind the ridiculous notion that Wenger might ever leave Arsenal, let’s just think about this for a second.

Wenger might be my favourite manager, period. His eye for talent is unrivalled, his ability to get young talent to perform is unmatched. With him at the helm, wouldn’t you expect a renaissance, a new golden age for the cantera and the first team? I sure would! Oh, BSMH!

More interestingly, the articles mention that Wenger would be given the post of “general manager” in addition to the coach’s role, akin to what North American sports franchises have, and probably most of what Pedja Mijatovic does in his role as technical director. This would be a major departure from business as usual in Spain or anywhere else on the continent, but it’s very common in England and that model is already what Wenger is used to.

I know Wenger has been approached before, but he’s likely said no because he pulls most of the strings at Arsenal. He dictates the team, he directs the transfer policy, he coaches the players. I don’t think that’s what was offered before. But now? With Arsenal’s limited pursestrings, Wenger is having to replenish his team every year as other teams poach his best players, like Hleb, Flamini and Henry, to name just the most recent ones. But with Real’s mega-millions behind him, Wenger could actually concentrate on building the best squad, and if his Arsenal teams are anything to go by (which they should be), they would be entertaining to watch too. How could he lose? He might even be able to bring Cesc with him!

Thoughts? Comments? Let’s hear it!





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  • Julien G. |  January 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 pm

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    No, no. No Wenger. Not for France and not for Real Madrid, there’s not enough sacrifice in his system, Plus we have the best scouts in the world. Why do we need Wenger? He’s he ever scouted a Pato, a Higuain or a Kaka?

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  • Kaushik |  January 23rd, 2009 at 12:08 am

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    I agree. Wenger would mean disaster. He will not suit the Real Madrid transfer style, if I may say so. For all you know there might be a tall lanky random African forward who is really pacy and not much more donning the white. That wouldn’t be great now would it?

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  • Andres |  January 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 am

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    I don’t know how to feel about this , wenger if given time could bring us a lot of silverware and in style too just how the madridistas like it but that is if he is given TIME and at madrid time to build is something a coach is never gonna get lets be real here would madridistas be willing to go 2 or 3 seasons ( which will probably be the time arsene will need to assemble a squad capable of winning it all ) without a single trophy ? I don’t think so , madridistas have no patience at all and to be honest even though we’ve had some of the craziest presidents you could ever find that impatience have killed our team more than once we always want instant results (which arsene wenger won’t be able to bring to the table) combine that with the frenchman unwilligness to spend on proven talents opting for developing his own instead

    I don’t think it will work out to be honest

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  • Hector |  January 23rd, 2009 at 4:58 am

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    I think you guys are forgetting those 03-05 Arsenal teams. The guys has gotten good results in a hell of an attractive style. We really don’t know if he’s really that stingy or if the owners and the debt they are in for the stadium is what makes him stingy. The part I don’t like in his management is his apparent heavy over-emphasis on African and French players. Is that on purpose or a result of budget constraints? The guy can develop young players, that’s for sure. If you pretty much force him to spend on big players you might end up with something not seen at the Bernabeu in quite a while: an attractive established and defined style of football that also wins games.

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  • Nothing |  January 23rd, 2009 at 6:31 am

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    Really now? To be perfectly honest, wenger is the worst choice for real madrid. Madrid are famous for firing their coaches, even when they win titles. There is no way they will have the patience arsenal has with wenger.

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  • Corey |  January 23rd, 2009 at 7:18 am

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    Real have fired two coaches who have won titles in the past 9 years. How are we famous for that? Capello had to go, he was not planning on staying more then a year anyway. The Del Bosque affair was a mess and is the exact reason that I wont vote for Florentino.

    Wenger to me would have been great a few years ago. I look at him now and I feel he is loosing it a bit. I cant see his rationale in refusing to spend even the smallest amount of money on players. He has excellent youth in his squad, but at the same time they are not cutting it. His Arsenal team could be great 3-4 years from now, but until then they will win nothing. Better to have a mix of experience and youth and win titles. This is the best experience a young player can have. Playing a good amount of games, but also learning from veterans and being shown how to win.

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  • Nothing |  January 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 am

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    Ok that wasnt exactly my point, my point was they have no patience.

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  • Corey |  January 23rd, 2009 at 9:09 am

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    Then you might want to put that in your post, I dont read your mind. Barcelona have actually had 9 coaches in ten years, Valencia has had god knows how many, I can keep going. Coaching changes are simply part of life in La Liga. You need to pay attention more to your facts.

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  • Andres |  January 23rd, 2009 at 10:01 am

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    Corey don’t waste your time with Nothing , that kid knows NOTHING !!

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  • Cesar |  January 23rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm

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    Andres,

    LOL!!!

    I wouldn’t mind Wenger in our squad, but I find it hard in terms of managing culture, as some of you have said, he’s used to working in the English style, where he’s in charge of everything; that is not the case in Spain, and I’m not sure if the club would change that way of working

    Some points about Wenger:

    1. I think he relies a lot in french and african players because of the language barrier; it’s easier to teach his system and talk and motivate the players if you speak the same language, so I think that’s one of the reasons he does it

    2. The reason he can’t buy top talent, or keep his talented players is because of the huge debt Arsenal incurred for the construction of their new stadium (beautiful I might add), almost all their revenue goes to payments and interests, so it’s really hard if you have that kind of constraint to fight for silverware year in and year out; having said that, I think the job he’s done with what is available to him is just ADMIRABLE, and I agree with some of you, that if he comes, with the club’s vast resources, Madrid would be back playing beautiful football, and fighting for every trophy

    3. Wenger coached “The Invincibles”, the last team in the Premiership to go undefeated the whole season, and that was an AWESOME team, henry, bergkamp, pires, lungberg, vieira, cole, etc, so he knows what it takes to manage superstars and big egos

    That’s all fot the moment, take care everybody

    HALA MADRID!!!

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  • john |  January 23rd, 2009 at 3:58 pm

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    I, like Steve, can’t help but drool when I think about what Wenger could do for our cantera. It’s getting more and more embarrassing seeing Barcelona’s success harvesting players in the last five years compared to ours. I have to imagine that Wenger would turn that trend around, or at least even the scales a bit.

    But like everything else, I just don’t see Madrid having the patience for a coach like Wenger, nor Wenger the patience for a club like Madrid. He’s earned his legacy at Arsenal, and is pretty much untouchable, if not infallible.

    One thing I have to say about Wenger of late, is that while he continues to harvest spectacular youth talent, he doesn’t seem to be able to retain them, whether that’s for funding or other reasons. Because of that, he’s been perpetually building for the last four or five years, something that would never stand in Madrid.

    And just to head off any Barcelona gloaters at the pass, Barcelona fans wouldn’t have the patience for that either. Corey is right that Spanish teams flip coaches like crepes. Remember that after Rijkaard won 2 consecutive titles and a CL, he was being brutally ostracized by cules for only coming 3rd in the Liga, and making it to the semi-finals of the CL and the Copa del Rey. Not winning is not an option for top clubs in Spain.

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  • Citizen |  January 24th, 2009 at 11:31 pm

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    Heh, if Wenger goes to Madrid at least he won’t be able to poach from La Masia any more :)

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  • Nothing |  January 25th, 2009 at 4:22 am

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    So u guys chose diarra for the champions league. Wouldnt it be totally hilarious if he is to get injured?

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  • Cesar |  January 25th, 2009 at 6:29 am

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    Nothing,

    You know what I’d find hilarious??? If messi, eto’o, henry, and xavi got injured!!!!

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  • Corey |  January 25th, 2009 at 8:29 am

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    Nothing- How is it funny if a player gets injured? We already have two season ending injuries and a life threatening injury to another player. I hardly think its appropriate to laugh if a player gets injured.

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  • Kaushik |  January 25th, 2009 at 9:58 am

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    Clearly you have a sense of humour that is at a different level.

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  • Granit |  January 25th, 2009 at 10:07 am

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    Nothing

    Thanks for clarifying for us what is and what is not funny! Now that u made your case its time to hit the steppin´… Is it really that boring in Q8? Or is it raining over there AGAIN.. Because for a (wo)man, who lives in sunny Q8 and is a Cule, u are spending lots of time at the Real Madrid forum provoking. I’m handing out big ups to all the madridistas who are showing tolerance towards this Nothing, cause mine is running low..

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  • Evo |  January 26th, 2009 at 8:35 am

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    I think the word he’s looking for is ironic rather than funny, but hey.
    I agree with ‘Nothing’ (even though he’s purposefully antagonising you all to get attention).

    I think it’s true that Madrid would not have the patience for Wenger.

    Like it or not, Real Madrid demands immediate results from their managers, mainly because of the way that the presidents change and need to gain immediate favour.
    Wenger hasn’t produced any results for a very long time.
    Personally I find watching Arsenal a frustrating experience since they all seem to prefer going for the killer pass rather than a shot on goal (Van Persie aside)

    We should have stuck with Del Bosque or Capello in my opinion – both are better than what we have now and Wenger.

    …just my opinion

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  • Evo |  January 26th, 2009 at 8:42 am

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    oh and I think it is embarrasing and shameful that we signed 2 players without first understanding the rules.
    FFS – for the amount of money these dicks get paid you’d think they’d do their job better.
    Mijatovic should have been fired on the spot for that.

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