

Deficiencies with Set Pieces
By: Corey | October 13th, 2009Original article as found at AS.com. Thanks to labomba for the heads up on this article, it was written a week back and although its been in my posts queue, I have yet to get to it.
We all know Real has a few weaknesses, each of which we have seen in fits and starts so far this season. The space on the flanks, the crowded midfield, the simple task of marking our immobile strikers all ring a bell, but the problems the team have had with set pieces seems to be the biggest weakness, and one that is not new to the team. And while set piece organization and defending may be a problem for this team, there is a greater issue in simply clearing high balls, either with the head or foot. AS first pointed to the number of goals conceded by Real from set pieces was an astonishing 57 goals in the previous five campaigns. That averages out to 11 goals a season from set piece situations!
Add to that total 3 this season from set pieces, as well as several in the preseason, and you have to wonder what is going on in the Real defense? Many have pointed to the lack of defensive organization because of the loss of Cannavaro. I rebuke this point by simply pointing to the statistics. Cannavaro played three seasons out of the last five seasons, so while he was organizing the defense 33 goals were conceded from set pieces. Hardly an argument. Another is the lack of height in the Real Madrid team. Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Mahamdou Diarra, and Christoph Metzelder all provide above average height to the defensive core, yet we are still lacking. Another line of thinking is in that the coach does not practice these situations in training, leading to a lack of practice in dead ball scenarios.
On several occasions Real have conceded because their is either no one marking the player who scored, in the case of Renato and Riki, or there is no one on one of the posts. Albiol and Garay have both been exposed as particularly weak in the air, unable to effectively challenge for the ball during set pieces, and in the case of Albiol, to get to the ball first when playing against a more physically robust player such as Negredo and Luis Fabiano. The long term absences of Metzelder and Pepe over the past season was also a problem, and the inability of Gabriel Heinze and Ivan Helguera to clear balls, much less make contact with them, contributed a great deal to that five year total.
Much of the problem with set pieces seems to be the man marking. To often the center backs pick out the tallest players (rightly so), but after that there is a break down in the who-has-who communication inside the box. We saw that Raul left Renato unmarked against Sevilla because he appeared to be playing a zonal marking, standing further out in the box. This failed because the other players who needed to maintain the closer areas to the goal had either pushed further forward already or had chased after the ball that was initially cleared to the wing. The other problem I have noticed is Casillas. He is not very good at claiming high balls, often staying on his line when he needs to challenge for the ball, and he often does not set his wall properly. His lack of command in the area is a problem, despite his seniority (and captainship) on the team.
AS points out that Pellegrini, while coach of Villarreal last season conceded 14 goals in 14 games, 6 of which were from headers. Casillas and Guti had a very public spat about positioning on a corner which was caught on camera. Marcelo, Gago, Ronaldo, Albiol and Garay have all been found wanting in the air this season, and it seems that the problem is a long term one for the team. Of course Marcelo, Drenthe, Gago, Lass, Guti and countless other former players were relatively short. In the case of Marcelo and Drenthe, their inability to win headed challenges and clear the ball effectively has contributed to a good portion of the conceded goals in the past two seasons, and indeed this season these frailties have been exploited yet again. Not only is set piece defending weak, but defending centered balls has been a problem for the team.
Marcelo often is to afraid to challenge in the air for the ball, which Navas found out all to easily. Marcelo rarely jumps for a headed ball, instead planting himself before clearing the ball back wards. Drenthe has a similar issue, watch film and you will see neither jumps for a ball as often as they should and when they do, they fling themselves into the air without keeping their eyes on the ball. Mahamdou Diarra, Sergio Ramos and Pepe seem the only reliable players to clear a ball, while Ronaldo is great in the air, but has already shown that his marking is less the stellar as he was responsible for the second Zurich goal conceded. When it comes to clearing center balls and low crosses, I think the blame lies not only with Pellegrini, but the ethos of the club. We put to much stock in always doing things in an attractive manner, so when a player has a chance to hoof the ball up field he may choose to settle the ball. There was apparent against Liverpool last year when hoffed balls forward were never properly dealt with by Real players, giving Liverpool a second chance to settle and move forward. It was disastrous to say the least.
When in the box, you always clear the ball to wide areas or out for touch, its a simple principle taught to every level of academy player. Yet the pressure to maintain possession and/or play the ball out from the back is often to adhered to in dangerous situations. Set pieces and defensive duties are never treated the same way attacking is at Real, so such problems persist. As Pepe and Albiol play more together, and players like Ramos, Arbeloa and Mahamdou Diarra return to the team on a regular basis to provide height and/or organization, the problem will slowly abate. But we also must look at this as a long term problem that a coach should be working on, and players should pay careful attention to. Centered balls, corner kicks and free kicks belong in only place. The stands. It may not be pretty, but it is better then conceding because no one jumped for the ball.
Preventing centered balls is also a problem that Marcelo and Drenthe are often to blame for. Half the battle is not letting the opposition player get a ball in to the box, but we have let 16 centers on average from the left, five more than on the right. We average 27 centers per game at the Bernabeu and 36! away from home, which is outrageously high for a team like Real. 14 times those centers met the head or boot of the opposition team in 6 league games. The fact that only one goal was scored seems miraculous, but in the case of the Valeron miss against Deportivo, or Casillas robbing Perotti and others, its playing luck and nothing more. Compare those stats to Barca, who allow 17 centers per game at home and no wonder they are winning more comfortably! We are fourth worst at centers allows, ahead of only Getafe, Deportivo and Osasuna. Thats not acceptable for a team that is challenging for the league title.
Tell me what your thoughts are on the set piece/center ball deficiencies that Real has exhibited over the past few seasons.
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Thing we have to understand is that Madrid (much like Barcelona) can’t rely on their defence to win a game. It might work a couple of times but it won’t work in the long run. If we play our “big” games the way we did with Sevilla, allowing them to do everything they want, we are bound to let goals in no matter who is in GK or in defence.
The solution is what Barcelona does, pressuring high and not allowing the opponent team to organize the way they want. Barcelona too has average at best defence but that doesn’t show cause they close down high in the pitch.
All in all, I believe that apart from LB we have solid defenders and DMs, but in order to have a sold defence as a whole, we must operate as a team. First target should be winning at least 60% possession.
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Attack d opponent’s half frequently nd they will 4get to attack us. Again casillas is 2 short
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Whilst it’s clear that our primary weakness is from set pieces, I would say that we look defensively better this season so far that in the last few.
Not sure if the statistics back me up on this …just my impression.Posted from
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i agree with eladir , ive been a fan of madrid since 99 and have never really been impressed with our defense , its the midfield and attack that won us games because we dominated our opponents and scored a lot of goals , funily enough thats what made me fall in love with this team
so like Eladir pointed out we need to start dominating games again! something we’ve failed to do in 4 years and avoid conceding stupid FKs ( im looking at you gago and lass ) because i honestly dont think this defense will get that much better at defending set pieces anytime soon we weren’t last year , the year before that or even 3 years before that as well , it shouldnt be that hard but for some odd reason it isbut like EVO said bar set pieces this is the best we have looked defensively in some time
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off topic but for anyone interested there is a very interesting interview with perez on the official site
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Negredo scores two for la roja! Where is labomba
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any true to the rumors linking Ro-whino to Barcelona?????
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“truth” I meant
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I hope so Cesar – I’d love that spoiled brat to bring his diva ways to Barcelona. Talk about a player I’d love to despise.
Congrats to Negredo. Bosnia-Herzegovina, who are actually a very good team, were demolished today. The last two goals were Spanish give aways once the match was already decided (5-0 in the 90th minute). What’s really impressive is that the NT did it without Xavi and Villa. Senna didn’t come on until the 67th minute. Ramos the 77th. How freaking good is that team!
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Oh yeah, and no Torres either. And no Navas. Holy crap Spain has talent.
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Missed the game Andrés, still a few of us with jobs left in these ´crisis´hit times, but heard about Negredo´s goals (and Mata´s second in two games just to give the cantera a nod)can´t wait to see them.
Pity we let in two goals at the end.
Not sure if we can win the WC but at least we´ll play nice football.
Am so tempted to get on the Negredo soap box, but you had enough of that this summer. Least we´ve got a buy back – bet Hull are kicking themselves!Posted from
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I think, besides the left back situation, Real Madrid would be complete if Real could get Mata and buy back Negredo from Sevilla. We are clearly lacking width in the attack and a target man, and I think these two ex-Castilla players have proven themselves. The left back situation is still a bit difficult, however. If we buy another one, then we will have to sell at least of our existing ones. What do you all think?
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I know that we have supposedly already struck a deal for Ribery, but I don’t think we’d need him if we could get Mata back. If we could get him and Negredo, no one could deny that Real Madrid develops their own talent with all of Raul, Guti, Casillas, Arbeloa, de la Red (obviously not active anymore but still a testament to the talent from Castilla), Granero, and the likes of Dani Parejo and Bueno, not to mention others such as Javi Garcia and Palanca.
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Hopefully Pelligrini uses Higuain and Mercedes BENZema in attack. I am tired of watching RAUL MADRID…Raul needs to take a secondary role and play off the bench so that we may again be called REAL MADRID. I asked this question at the beginning of the season: In which of the top 4 teams in the EPL, Serie A or La Liga could Raul start? Inter? Chelsea? Man U LOL….u must be crazy!!…he is not even good enough to get a starting role at Sevilla ..Hell he is not even good enough to start at TOTTENHAM HOTSPURS!!Even AC milan as bad as they are currently would not have Raul in their starting line – up… SO why the fck is Raul starting in our team!!?
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Lol labomba I hear you , I do believe that la roja will lift the WC this year there is no team in the tournament as good as them but in football anything can happen I didn’t expect the USA to beat us either but they did so I’m being cautiously optimistic
Muhammad even I could start for milan right now lol but I do get your point even tho I don’t agree with it right this moment because CR and ruud are out injured instead of having higuain playing up front I think we should play him on the wing Cr plays on at least until the latter recovers which will leave us with only benzema and raul in the striker department , so we will definitly see him play , unless we decide to go with 4 5 1 of course
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I’m with muhammad on the Raul thing. Raul needs to consign himself to something like the solskjaer, larsson or even now owen role at manchester united. Higuián needs a run of games to find form, and he’s not going to get that as long as el capitán is considered an automatic starter. Also I would much rather see mata back instead of ribery. Good talent, less ego. And of course Negredo needs to return this summer.
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There’s no real point in talking about new signings now, we propably won’t sign anyone in January so till next summer there’s a lot of time. Also a lot will depend of how successful we are this season, the less success the more changes.
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I think a lot of the set piece stuff has to do with height, and quantities of attacking players in the side. When Raul deigned not to mark on that critical Sevilla goal, people can call him whatever they like, but it just isn’t in his DNA to get in, elbow and grunt around. Not sure if it ever was.
But when you look at Liga sides in Champions League, compared to their Premiership counterparts, it looks like boys against men. Messi comes up to Rio Ferdinand’s waistband. It’s difficult to argue with height when defending set pieces. It’s one reason I’m a bit more confident with us having Chygrynskiy, Pique and The Yaya back there. Ibrahimovic also defends on set pieces.
Many of us, john, are hoping the Robinho rumors aren’t true. I’d rather give up some attacking prowess in return for someone who tracks back on defense, contests for possession in the midfield and is willing to do scut work.
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And to Eladir’s point, as Guardiola says, “Without the ball, we suck.” Which is pretty accurate. We have better defenders than under the Rijkaard years, but if we tried to play the same static defense, the results would be about the same.
People talk about “meaningless” possession. But if you have the ball, that means that the other side doesn’t. It’s as simple as that.
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As long as Raul keeps scoring i don’t see why he doesn’t deserve to start. But he hasn’t been on form this season nor has Higuain so still 1 striking spot free imo.
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Zizou, has Higuain played the same amount of games as Raul? I don’t think thats true, so comparing them right now is something we can’t do. We also all know that higuain needs games to get into his groove, and although it looks like its not working, i think the best striking partnership we have right now is Benz + higuain. I would say Ruud as a target man, but then again he is too old and injured. Maybe Negredo next season.
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Do you really think that a goalkeeper, a single man can command 10 ohters ? It’s just impossible, so if we conceed so many on set piece, it’s not Iker’s fault, no way…
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Yer Benzema and Raul doesn’t look good atm, and i do want Higuain to get more games, i was just saying a lot of people are complaining that Raul is getting a lot of time, but i think he’s earnt this time over the years and don’t think he’s to old to play, and if he is scoring 1 week i don’t think he should benched the next just to give Higuain more time. But Higuain and Benzema are the future so i can see your points.
mad i’m with you i don’t think Iker should be blamed on set pieces its not his fault players can’t jump, he should come out more though to punch the ball from crosses as it makes it easier to defend then.
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I agree with u guys about gettin mata and negredo back.Palanca, parejo,agus and bueno to return later. Van der vaart, ruud, drentre,gago, metzelder and dudek must all b offloaded next summer.
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I don’t know I am just being creative here, shouldn’t we try Garay at LB? He’s left footed and can defend….
As for the wingers, why do we love to be one winger short? Zidane is mad about Ribery but at the rate that he is getting injured, I have to ask what was wrong with Robben? We certainly need Mata back! Kaka is a great player but he is not for the wings!
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