Do we really need this guy????
By: Cesar | July 2nd, 2009
I still have mixed feelings about the Benzema signing, but I’d like to share my concerns with you regarding another frenchman, Franck Ribery.
So, do we need him??? Is he really that vital to our title aspirations???? Does Florentino owe Zidane something we don’t know????
After the signings of Kaka, CR96, and Albiol (so far) and all the excitement and hopes for next season that the first two have created on the madridistas, I don’t know what Florentino is doing right now with this probable signing. I understand the Benzema deal occured because of Valencia’s refusal to sell David Villa to us (look at the Barcelona offer, IT’S A JOKE!!!), but Ribery????
To answer my first question, I’d say YES if only we get rid of Robben; there’s no point of having an oft-injured winger, not even one of Robben’s quality (and poor decision making). I’d say NO, if we keep Robben, but also because with Benzema, and probably with Ribery coming over, I don’t see where Higuain fits in the starting 11, and that’s really bothering me. Pipita, Iker and Lass are the only 3 players (IMHO) who should play every game, based on their performances from last season.
I’m not really sure if he’s vital to our title aspirations, but this team’s won 2 Liga titles in the last 3 years, with no Kaka, CR, etc, so NO, I don’t think he’s vital to our club aspirations.
As for the Zidane part, I feel that Florentino is pressing the Ribery deal to appease Zidane, don’t get me wrong, I also know that he’s doing it because Franck is a great player, but still, I don’t know what’s going on between those two.
We still need a midfielder and a new left back, so I’d rather focus on acquiring Xabi Alonso and Arbeloa, than signing Ribery.
I’m really worried that Florentino is making the same mistakes he did the last time he was president, but I guess only time can tell who was right. With all the spending and all the names coming, the only possible result that could make this a sound investment would be for us to win the treble, as Barcelona did last year. Anything short of that would be a failure, this team has to win eveything.
That’s all for now, HALA MADRID!!!!
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Agree with you wholeheartedly, this spending is getting ridiculous, I check out the sites on a daily basis not to see about potential signings but see who´ll be offloaded and no news is coming out about that
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hell no we dont need him, i cant believe he’s still being considered. honestly, while the whole world buts in on how the evil real madrid buys everything and everyone, most of us could still defend the signings of cron, kaka, albiol, maybe even benzema. adding ribery would be madness, unless we manage to sell the whole dutch team first
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Here’s a list:
Huntelaar – $20 mil
Heinze – $7 mil
Robben – $20 mil
Van der Vaart – $10 mil
Garcia – $3 mil
van Nistelrooy – $15 mil
Diarra – $17 mil
Faubert – -$2 mil (we’ll pay if you’ll take him)(Okay, so I completely made up all those transfer estimates, so feel free to argue and make fun of me – I’d actually like to hear what everyone else thinks those players are worth. And further more, should Sneijder and Marcelo be added to that list? Gago?)
Once, and only once, we clear out at least half of that list, then I’d be willing to consider Ribery.
Right now the only signing I’d really advocate is a left back. Yes, I’d like Alonso – but only after someone paid us a decent amount for Gago. And if we do sell out a good portion of the above list and acquire Ribery, Alonso and (say) Arbeloa, then we may have one of the best starting lineups, with some of the least depth in Europe. That does not a CL champ make.
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Ribery is the best winger in the world he is like a iniesta with pace and a powerful shot and he always gives his all for the team he plays for so I want him at madrid so gimme him over robben ( who even tho blessed with talent isn’t a team player and goes missing when needed the most aka injured before most of our immportant games ) anyday
And cesar ribery’s coming will not interfere with xabi and arbeloa’s but I see your point about pipita tho I really don’t know what’s gonna happen to him even if ribery doesn’t join things still don’t look good for him even tho they should , let’s just hope pellegreni choose his starting 11 based on merit than anything elsePosted from
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I don’t disagree with you Andres, but I’ve been figuring Robben as a Sub for the most part. No way Ribery starts as a sub, and the last time I checked Bayern were asking 80 million euros – hell no. I’d pay half that, tops, if we actually needed him. Yes he’s good, and worth it, but with Robben, Marcelo, Pipita, Ronaldo (who can play either side) Kaka, Guti, and Palanca available for the left wing – what sense does it make to spend even 40 million to cover the position? And seeing how much of the money to fund these transfers is coming in the form of bank loans, where the hell’s the money going to come from to pay them back? This is beginning to look like a gamble that could see us banned from the casino, with the Bernabeu on the auctioning block.
Didn’t Valencia already learn what happens when you spend based on what you THINK will be coming in? Jeesh.
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just a few months back,everyone was laughing at us.our time was gone,we were not that big a deal,we dont have the same pulling power as before,etc etc. and that stuck enough that i wanted calderon and mijatovic on pikes outside the bernabeu.we had been dragged through the mud and barca’s triplete just poured a truckload of salt on top of the burns. and now, everyone is scared.we are suddenly the bull in the china shop.got the money and will make offers no one can refuse. power certainly is addictive.
i dont know about the long term.but being the best in the world is our right.and the end justifies the means.we dont have the time to set up a wengeresque project.la decima has to be won at home. and no cost is too high for it.
having said that,if ribery coming in means the benching of pipita,i would rather not have him at the bernabeu.not because i think ribery is superfluos,but because with his effort and the way he gives his all in every match,for me,gonzalo higuain is as much one of ours as is raul.emotional attachment and all that stuff,i guess.
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*superfluous
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John I hear you but what perez said is true no way we won’t be getting back the money we’ve spend so far in a couple of years we will never go bankrupt like valencia
Besides I don’t want us to spend 80 mil on ribery either I’m thinking more like 25 mil plus robben and vdvAmen to that realrock
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Well if Ribery comes. I think you’ll see this line up
———Iker
Ramos-Pepe-Albiol-Arbeloa?
Ronaldo-Lass-Kaka-Ribery
—–Higuain-BenzemaOr
———Iker
Ramos-Pepe-Albiol-Arbeloa?
———-Lass
Ronaldo————Ribery
———-Kaka
——Higuain-BenzemaAll I know is Higuain better play often or I will be upset.
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we would need to have double pivot..one thing good about ribery over robben tho is that he does fall back and help in defense…(we need to clean up many players)..Pipita has to start every match come what may ..this will be big season for him…
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Looks to me like Ribery is going to put himself all out for a Madrid change.
Why not a straight swap for Robben?Posted from
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marcano is gone nw..we need to get a left back…heinze doesn’t really fit in this team…
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well i think guys that we all love Heguin,and we all would like hime to play every game….but lets face it,with benzima comming he will be the sole striker,unless he failed to impress in the few first matches then Pipita will get his chance,which i think he will take it to the fullest(and sadly shows perez that it was wrong to buy a striker for 35$ M,and set on the bench).
ok the rebiry issue,well may be we all appreciate what Robben did for us,but lets face it,he is really bad in his judgment in the field,and way to selfish in his playing methods,but on the other hand Rebiry…is way much better…i watched a few games for bayern last year when i heard he might come,and saw him really run havoc to all teams,he is way much better than robben in every aspect of the game,and the most important…not a tin man like robben….
we still need a central defender, left defender,and yes Xabi alonso….with Lass i think Xabi alonso will have the freedom to move and pass,and read the game .which he is really good at….
regarding Gago…i think he is really an average guy,whom get bullied in the midfield whenever Real face a fast team….he is really bad in defending anf very bad in reading the game….in total he is really over rated,and if real are smart they should cash on him now,cuz for sure if he stayed for next year,he will be sold with big loss…
the dutch also must go….the only exception should be snieder…cuz i think when he finds competition he will regain his game…
and please get 2 or 3 players from the cantera….specially Palanca….he is really,really good…for a guy to come and play that will in the first el-clasico….
finally they need time,give the coach time,even if it took him more time than they expect…..remember Capello..????
Heguin will win in this team and he will be the star,even when they play someone else at first…all wait and see..Posted from
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Regarding your comment about needing time, Rami – that’s exactly what I’m worried about. With the amount Florentino is spending, it won’t just be a matter of fans’ expectations, it’ll be a matter of recouping investment. I’m wondering just how disastrous it will be when/if Real don’t win the CL. I’m worried that Perez is creating a situation where we can’t AFFORD time.
But great comment, and I totally agree about Palanca. I still don’t understand why after his promising performance he wasn’t given more chances last season. I attributed it to Ramos not having the balls to select him over Robben.
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Ok since Real want to buy Ribery, Xabi Alonso, and Arbeloa they are going to play with a 4-5-1 formation cuz if they are not to there is really no need in buying Xabi Alonso.
-Iker
-Ramos-Pepe-Albiol-Arbeloa
-Lass-Xabi
-Ronaldo-Kaka-Ribery
-BenzemaBenzema should be a good singging but incase he isnt they should really think of bringging in Pato. Pato is a great player and young, that is why I would like to see him at Real. I also think that they should keep Gago, Robben, Higuain, Marcelo, Diarra, and a few of there other players that could be a good call upon when a player is either tired or injurid. But they really should get rid of the dutch players, Guti, Raul, Heinza, and a few others. With that money they should try to get some real subs with enough tallent to replace the starters when there tired or injurid. I also thought that Real could make an offer for Calos Tevez. He would be a good striker up there by himself and then Benzema on the bench until he is ready to handle the presure. Don’t get me wrong I like Higuain but I think he might be better playing behind the striker providing that support because that was kinda his role last season. Real still need to spend money on a few positions but I think when they do they’ll be at the top of there game. HOPEFULY
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Higuain is an unquestionable player at the moment, he’s proven to feel the colours and shows great improvement season after season, i don’t think Pellegrini is going to sacrifice the argentinian for a 21 year old striker that needs to work hard to aspìre to take the position, that is if the team cannot play with two strikers, at this point id like to think that Raul will start off the bench. If you come to think about it…Villa is 27 and at his peak….signing a 21 year old benzema with a vast margin of imrprovement for 35 million is a good deal in my book.
Ribery has it all, decision taking, speed, pass its always ideal to have him since he can play on the wing like in bayern or in any case kaka or our attacking midfielder is injured, ribery is sure to take over by himself. Van Gaal is interested in the dutch pack and in the case the transaction takes place, im sure sneider and robben or van der vaart would be included in the operation, no need to worry about it.
I agree that our priority is to sign a defensive midfielder to accompany Lass, alonso is ideal….arbeloa would also help and Ramos could start the season playing as a centerback until pepe can line up with albiol. Forget the left wing, Torres has experience and he did a fine job in the Capello days, we cannot aspire to have 11 galacticos! and we can always sub marcelo or ramos if arbeloa makes it here or whomever.
I say go for ribery, just think of our wing speed with him and CR on the opposite flank! yikes
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