Villa Not For Sale Say Valencia, Head Scratching Begins

By: Corey | June 19th, 2009

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Huh??? Since when? It seems that Valencia president Manuel Llorente has really thrown his pair on the table with this statement. A clever negotiation tactic or a clear sign that Valencia do not need to sell to get their debt under control? Considering the reasons why Llorente is in charge currently, I would have to think the club is still up to its eyeballs in debt (then again, how many clubs in Spain are? To many…). But Llorente, after so much as admitting that sales would take place this summer, has reneged on Villa’s transfer status. He is now ‘untransferable’ much like David Silva. Or at least until an “amazing offer” comes in…

“We have taken the decision to not sell David Villa. We’ve taken this decision after some days of thought in which we studied the advantages and disadvantages,” Llorente said.

“We think David Villa is the best striker in Europe and we have the fortune to have him in our team and we are going to fight to keep him.”

“It’s not a strategy, but to avoid all the rumours. Because they affect Valencia, the media and the player.

“We have to be calm and think about the project. When we talked of selling it was because we thought that some players could bring in a lot of money, like Villa. But it’s not been like that.”

“I cannot say that because there could arrive an amazing offer” he added.

So the truth comes out in so closely veiled words Mr. Llorente. Talk of selling players to bring in a lot of money, but it has not happened yet. Because even though Villa is one of the best forwards in Europe, he will never reach the transfer fees of Kaka or Ronaldo. Why you may ask? Because Valencia can hold on to him sure, but they cant sell them for to much either because every club in Europe knows that they need money, so they will be low balled. Negotiating is never so simple as a handshake my friends, especially when the press gets involved.

With that in mind, do these statements really have much merit in them when he finishes off the press conference with “I cannot say that because there could arrive an amazing offer”? That is an admission of defeat if I ever heard one. He has to sell the player, but he wants as much money as possible for him. Except despite Real causing hyper-inflation in the market this summer, Villa’s market price really is some where around 45-50 million euro. How much more can Llorente expect if Real’s competing bidders supposedly tabled bids in that range also?

I am sure that Mr. Llorente was none to please with the arrogant boast Florentino Perez made the other day about Villa being a question of time rather then money. Such comments are usually reserved for after the transfer is completed, or if your Ramon Calderon, before the transfer even starts. Llorente has responded to Perez with a refusal, so now lets see what the Real exec does to get the negotiations back on track. My guess is nothing though, with this little tidbit coming out today as well. That may force Valencia’s hand, or it may not…

Villa’s agent, Jose Luis Tamargo is none to pleased with the comments by Mr. Llorente, as he had this to say.

“They [Valencia] have put us through a situation that is, sadly, very unpleasant because this is no good for anyone.

“Valencia have changed their minds and they are telling us they don’t want to sell the player after, as everyone knows, having talks with three of the four top clubs.”

Considering that while it seems David Villa is very committed to Valencia, he was resigned to being sold as the club did not qualify for the Champions League this year. He also stated a few days ago that he had made up his mind on where he was going to be playing next season. Everyone assumed it was Real he was speaking of. No one figured he could have meant staying with Valencia. Not to speculate to much, it just seemed all to likely he would end up in Madrid, or at the least Barcelona. So he probably said to himself, if he has to move, he better make the right choice and picked one of the two teams. Who knows which one he picked, but now he is staying in Valenica, which he may be happy with but its never good to jerk a player around like that.

With Karim Benzema in the picture all the sudden, does this mean Villa really is out of the picture though? Villa’s agent isnt happy, I am sure Perez is not happy, and it was pretty clear Llorente was not happy with the offers he received. Question is, do we ever stop to wonder if Villa is happy with all of this? Not a distraction he needs while on international duty for sure. So who is right and wrong here? Is this a result of Florentino Perez’s big mouth or is Valenica just trying to jack the price up a little more? And who do you really want at 50 million euros, Daivd Villa or Karim Benzema, who I suppose would go for that much if not a little less with players included for both hit-men. Let me know what you think on all of this!

BONUS NEWS: If any of you are interested, here is a little gallery of photos of the new Real kit which is available at the Bernabeu right now and should be shipping by August.

EXTRA BONUS NEWS: There has been rumors of Mahamadou Diarra being pursued by Juventus this past week. I have simply put my hands over my ears and screamed so I didnt hear them. I love Diarra, so to me he is not up for sale. But….Juventus has a back up plan if Pellegrini and the Real team are against such a move. They will go after Fernando Gago for… drum role please ….. 20 million euro! Ha, have him!

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Evo

anyway i think you're right patcook - we are drunk on money and it has gone to our heads.
Hard not to get excited when it's your team buying big name players.
I daresay it would happen to anyone
labomba

I think the Ibra thing is a smokescreen to let Valencia know that Madrid won´t play those games. I personally thing he will be an overpriced big game bottler and strikers are the area where least immediate cover is needed.Villa sounds v pissed off about it, in last night´s press conference. The Forlan rumour is doing the rounds again.
Priority has got to be creative Mid, Left back and Cb
patcook

lol its was just a joke meant to stir you guys up, it worked i guess. Plus i think if you guys go to turin you'll see that Juve fans take great delight in reminding torino fans about Superga, even selling postcards of the mountain with a plane crashing into it. Opposition crowds around Italy often chant about it taunting torino about superga. Its just part of fan culture, you have a dig when you can. If you think im sitting here seriously hoping your whole team dies u r the misguided ones
Cesar1976

Yeah, I agree with you, just another lie they told us, "we're gonna count on the cantera players, blah, blah, blah"
Sambit

Ibra = good player, probably the most complete striker in the world today.

too much risk for my liking there...Ibra v C. Ronaldo fighting to be in the spotlight, and if ever there was an argument between the two that would completely destroy dressing room harmony. I'd honestly rather persist with Negredo. Seems like the board/management have no faithin him and are just using him as bait which really sucks.
Cesar1976

And all this Ibrahimovic thing, what do you guys think about it ???
Cesar1976

I'm with Corey, we know how these guys think, just ignore them, patcook is bitter because kaka didn't want to play with a bunch of dinosaurs...

I also think that besides his willingness to help Milan economically, kaka wanted out because of Ronaldinho, who Berlusconi still considers a "campione", LOL!!!!!

I don't wish ill on anybody, but this Villa fiasco is making me have very bad thoughts about the Valencia management team....
Nihit

while i wouldnt use the same language as realrock, i totally condemn patcook's comments about his hoping that we have a superga. really, he should be banned from the milan offside as well.
and i'd simply like to laugh at I Hate Madrid for calling people like Andres and RealRock classless when Patcook is clearly the one who lacks any remote semblance of class.
I Hate Madrid

*shows how much of an idiot you are* (refering to andres and realrock of course"

Surprise surprise, a trophyless season for Real Madrid. lololol
I Hate Madrid

LOL LOL LOL

Nice 1 patcook. And notice the classless idiots like Andres and RealRock got really upset by your comments. It shows how much of an idiot you really are.
realrock

well,i apologise ,corey and sambit, for the harsh words.but i am not taking back my words for patcook. dissent is cool. arguing back and forth is really fun. but he stepped way over the line. wishing that we suffer a superga. thats heights,man. we all wish that our rivals flop and fail miserably. but no one is ever gonna say that ,i wish barca have a plane crash and all their squad dies.

that wasnt disrespectful just towards us. it was also an insult to the grande torino.
Corey

Ahh the Mendieta incident, how long ago that seems. Thanks for reminding me realrock.

On a more serious note, please do not use such inflammtory language towards other posters Realrock and Andres. Patcook, who ever he may be, is a dissenter but thats typical of an online blog. Ignore his comments and continue with your discussion, that is all I ask. As Sambit said, he is not a retard, just a little misguided. I cannot ban every single person that disagrees with me, or the commentors. CBP was an exception.
realrock

this saga seems like a replay of the gaizka mendieta episode. player wants madrid,madrid want player. big bid comes in.valencia suddenly have a stick up their arse. player goes to lazio for a huge fee.flops miserably. villa to madrid matches upto the 1st three lines. if the last two lines match too in the future(though villa wont be going to lazio any time soon),it will be a very sad thing indeed.

if villa doesnt come to us,he should stay at valencia. and if he moves to barca,then i hope he is a bigger flop than mendieta at lazio. call me whatever you want,but every cule sent up the same prayer about our galacticos nuevos. i am just returning the favor. may they sell eto'o and buy villa(if valencia behave like peseteros and demand excessively).and may villa fail miserably. good for us.
Sambit

*no humane person
Sambit

realrock, calm down, you're stoking the flames. i've seen patcook's post on the milan offside and he's probably not a 'retard'. he's probably bitter about kaka and our excessive spending (when compared to galliani + berlusconi's pennypinching ways), and to be honest if i were not a madrid fan i'd be pretty pissed off too because these fees are going to inflate fees all across the market.

and patcook, if i were you id post something with a bit more substance than "you are arrogant, and i hope your team dies". that is ridiculously disrespectful and no hmane person, let alone a fan of football as a sport would ever wish death upon a player. you deserve to be banned for that comment.
Andres

patcook is just another idiot who goes from blog to blog to talk shit ala CBP , he has been doing it on every single blog that corey has written in the past couple weeks or so dont you got other things to worry about ? like pato saying that he is seriously interested in chelsea , inter will shit on you again next season
realrock

you know patcook, you are the sort of guy i wont piss on to save if you are on fire. we will have our own superga very soon,eh. you cocksucking son of a bitch,does your retarded almost non existent brain even realise what your mouth is vomiting ???

we have seen screwjobs galore on this forums. nothing, CBP et al. but this cabron is the biggest one of them all. if you were in torino,they would flay you alive. i wont be against doing that myself.
patcook

"and if we cant get xabi alonso,i wont say no to daniele de rossi"

You guys are just drunk on money atm. Its simply rediculous you can even have discussions about guys like Villa and Alonso after buying Kaka and Ronaldo.

If there is any justice you guys will have ur own superga very soon
realrock

valencia are stuck in a quicksand and sinking. massive debts.a stadium whose construction has come to a grinding halt. inability to pay the wages.and on top of that,now the player himself doesnt want to stay.they are gonna have to sell. and i think madrid's offer is the best they have on the table. but llorente is thinking that since madrid have done two world record transfers this summer, maybe he can get a huge offer too. the only problem,you cant bluff if you have no cards in your hand. chelsea card void as the player doesnt want it. barca offer seems nonexistent. loans dont seem forthcoming. selling is the only way to avoid chapter 11.

maybe we will switch to ribery if villa doesnt come. 4-4-2 then. double pivot of diarra and diarra. kaka and ribery on the wings. CR and higuain as strikers. wow,maybe pipita will turn out to be better than villa. also,i think forlan will be a good buy. yes,he is above 30.but he is one of the fittest players around. and his scoring record in spain is beyond compare. rvn out.forlan in.

gago for 20 million. wow.not unbelievable though. secco and mijatovic are of the breed. he can go for 20 mil. hallelujah.all hail secco.
Madridista Mac

Valencia are stuck. I think they'd happily accept the romored 50m euro bids coming supposedly the like of Chelsea, Man U, Barca, etc. Trouble is that Villa supposedly doesn't wanna move to England (except for Liverpool who look like they've spent all their money on Glen Johnson). I've always thought that the Barca bid was bullshit. Valdano's statements was clearly a dare to Valencia to 'go ahead!'... and the fact that they do not have 50m + Bojan and Caceres shows it was indeed bullshit.

Valencia is stuck because Villa wants to come to Madrid (somehting that I fully believe now because they're all upset) and the Madrid bid is no where near where they want it to be. Florentino was gloating when he made those satements as if to say 'I know you're stuck'.

I personally have no issue with buying Villa or not as I have numerously said that I'm happy with our striking lineup aleady (assuming that Negredo is with us) and our midfield that is now packed with the firepower of CR96 and Kaka. If this ends with the purchase of Benzema, I also won't mind because I've always wanted the big Frenchman to be in our team.

If anything, I wold only like this thing to be wrapped up as oon as possible so that we can now move on to our defensive signings.

One thing that got me excited about Corey's post: 20m for Gago! Wow! If this is true, it seems that Christmas came early this year!
Andres

villa will join us by the end of the season dont even worry about it gents
i saw a very funny article on AS.com this morning , everytime i think about it i laugh , supposedly man utd are gonna bid for......... Casillas yes thats right san iker ahahah i had doubts about fergie's sanity before but this has confirmed my doubts the man is insane
Donovan

I still see Villa moving to another club before the new season starts. Whether or not its Madrid or Barca. I think Valencia are just looking to get as much money as possible from the deal. They now firmly leaving the ball in madrids side of the court, clearly saying if you want him come get him but we not letting him go for cheap.
Cesar1976

I think Llorente is feeling a lot of pressure from supporters, who didn't want Villa to go to Madrid, as Mijatovic did some time ago.

If they're not selling Villa and Silva, then, how are they going to pay their debt?, given that those are the two players for which they would've gotten the best deals, I don't know how they'll do it, unless they found new investors for the club.

another reason why this went wrong, is the inability of spanish athletes, directives, and agents (sorry if there are any spaniards in the forum, I tell it how I see it based on my direct experience) TO KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. They can't resist the press, NO COMMENT doesn't exist on their vocabulary, THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING!!! URGH!!!!!

If florentino had kept his mouth shut from the beginning, maybe villa would be a Real player by now; BUT NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!, He has to go to As, MARCA, tv, etc, and say all that nonsense; we need a VP of common sense at the club, FAST!!!!

If Benzema comes, I don't mind letting Huntelaar go

I'm tired, I'm angry, AND I CAN'T STAND THIS TRANSFER SEASON!!!

Another thing, Valencia mishandled this Villa situation, and they put the player and his agent in a bad spot; if I were Villa, I WOULD FORCE THEM TO SELL ME, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO A TEAM, AND THEY WERE COUNTING ON YOU SELLING ME!!!!!

Enough
Cesar1976

yeah, if they want gago for 20 million, let them have him, farewell fernando, thanks for everything....