

Why Watch The Copa del Rey?
By: Corey | October 29th, 2008Awhile back I asked readers for some content for me to post. The reason being all of you have such great comments that I thought it would be nice to see what you had to see in a full post. Well here is the first in, I hope, a long line of user-written content. Without further ado, an excellent piece from John Staunton on the Copa del Rey.
Why Watch the Copa del Rey?
Like the Carling Cup in England, the Copa del Rey (“King’s Cup” in english) is the kind of competition that rarely garners more than a shrug from the general public, and a half hearted “Yip!” from the fans of the winning side. There are reasons for this. Most of the larger clubs in Spain view this tournament as a bit of a sideshow, or at best, like Valencia last year, a consolation prize. There is no doubt that the top teams – the clubs with lots of money pouring in and out of the front offices – look first to either European success or domestic league dominance before giving the Copa del Rey much thought. At the beginning of the tournament, teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia, Atletico de Madrid and et cetera usually rest their key players for what they deem more important competitions. They let their bench warmers get a run out, along with some players from their youth academies. If they happen to find themselves in the quarter finals, or semi-finals, then they’ll figure, “What the heck? Might as well really give this thing a go, right? I mean, silverware is silverware, right?” But they won’t risk anything major until they’ve made it at least that far. In the meantime, it’ll be B squad players and bench warmers for the big shot clubs. From a spectator’s perspective, however, this is part of what makes this competition so interesting.
Though I’m not as faithful to Madrid’s Castilla as Corey is (who has an incredible wealth of knowledge about Madrid’s youth system: hats off) I would still much rather watch players from our academy succeed than a team full of hired guns, a la Florentino Perez and the Galacticos. (There are – completely unfounded – rumors that Flo-Per might be after the presidency again; this particular Madridista’s thoughts on it? Keep him the hell away.) At the moment, I think we’re all enjoying the services of Ruben de la Red and Miguel Torres, even if we occasionally argue about old guard players Castilla products such as Guti, Raul and Salgado. And the only thing greater than Casillas’ skills is the fact he’s a blanco through and through. I also think most of this forum’s readers would agree that players like Esteban Granero, Alvaro Negredo, and Juan Mata would be welcomed back warmly to the Bernabeu, and given their chances to earn a spot on the starting XI. Well, for our young cadets, the Copa del Rey is exactly when and where those chances do come. Players like Javi Garcia will most likely get plenty of action at the beginning of this competition, and perhaps we’ll see some call-ups from the Castilla get their first starts for Real, namely Chema Anton and Alberto Bueno. Seeing as these players may one day be deciding the success of the club, this is a valuable opportunity to see them in action. Furthermore, the other big clubs will be taking a similar approach. Yesterday, Sergio Busquetts was given charge of Barcelona’s midfield (with Yaya Toure’s help) and players like Victor Sanchez and Abraham were given the keys to Laporta’s catalan car. We can expect to see some of the promising youths of the lower leagues strutting their stuff, and that’s reason #1 why I, personally, will be watching as many matches as I can.
Reason #2 is only slightly different, and concerns the bench warmers. I fully expect to see Royston Drenthe starting a majority of these early Copa fixtures. Not only is it imperative that Big Bernd keep Arjen Robben healthy, but it’s time to start making some decisions about Royston. I was excited as anyone about this kid’s arrival to the Bernabeu, but he still has yet to impress. Recently, he’s seen a bit more playing time, but he seems unsure of himself, constantly loses possession, and makes a list of foolish mistakes. He has blinding pace, and is capable, every once in a while, of lobbing in a nice cross, so he’s got potential. But how long do we sit on this potential, rather than give more of our own youth a shot? In my mind, this may be Drenthe’s last chance. I wish him the best of luck.
Also in that category is Saviola. Actually, most of us would say his last chance has come and gone, but he’s still here. And with two aging strikers and only one other back up (meaning Higuain, who probably won’t be considered a back up much longer if he continues to impress) I suppose Saviola’s better than no one. So the Argentine will be another face I expect to see a lot of in the first stages, and the pressure will be greater than ever. Again, the best of luck.
And what about Christoph Metzelder? Same story, except in this case I just want him to take his beard back to Germany. I don’t like his style of defending, I think he’s too slow for La Liga, and his judgment can be awful. We already have oodles of faulty judgment in our defensive ranks, and slow players don’t fit well with pressing defenses, which is what Schuster is trying to accomplish. But he’ll be on display during the King’s Cup as well, you can bet.
So what will be the plight of these men currently wearing white? Only the Copa del Rey cam tell. (And yes, I spent five minutes on the rhyme and meter of that last bit. I fully expect to be teased for it.)
Reason #3 actually has nothing to do with Real Madrid. It has to do with the rest of them. First off, some of the middle and lower table clubs see this competition as their only chance to win some silverware, and then get a ticket to Europe, to boot. (In case any of you don’t know, the winner of this competition automatically gets a slot in the UEFA Cup, a.k.a the Champion’s League’s shy little sister.) These teams, as long as they’re not fighting tooth and nail to avoid relegation, put all their chips in, and usually manage some pretty exciting football in the process. Last season, and for the second year running, Getafe thrilled all and sundry on their way to the final, where they were unfortunately bested (for the second year running) by one of the big clubs (Valencia last year and Sevilla the year before). Mallorca also looked like a giant-killer, and gave us our marching papers before being felled by Getafe. Racing Santander played some pretty practical ball, but were a threat that they could never have been in the Primera. And yesterday, Benidorm put their attacking blinkers on and managed a not-too-awful effort against the high flying FC Barcelona (or at least their B-team) losing by only a goal. My point is that clubs like these make this tournament way more exciting than it is on paper. I hope you all will watch, whether by streaming the games or at least reading the reports. (Corey has promised us a Real Madrid-Real Union Irun postgame write-up on Friday, and other La Liga writers – Kevin and Isaiah for Barcelona and Cesar for Valencia, Al for Atletico, Anthony for Sevilla – have already set up Copa del Rey shop; hopefully Paddy for not-so-super-anymore-Depor, and the rest of the LFP Offsiders will follow suit.)
Finally take reason #4 into consideration: Valencia, the current holders of the Cup, have managed a transformation of the highest caliber over the last four months. Last season, with their club a shambles, they were looking deep into the eyes of relegation. They somehow managed to win the Copa del Rey, which – and I think even a good many Valencia fans would agree with me on this – was kind of a shame. It meant that Ronald Koeman, who managed so much destruction in his short (and well paid) stay that you couldn’t help but compare him to the Trojan Horse, walked away from his cancerous stay in Spain with a trophy to brag about.
But this season, with the immensely brilliant Unai Emery and his magic wand at the Mestalla, Valencia are currently atop the Primera table, and fighting in the UEFA cup (is anyone out there predicting a Tottenham bid?). So for them, the Copa del Rey is probably more of a shrug than ever – their primary aim will be to re-establish credibility through the usual channels. Villarreal are going to be saving their man power for the Champion’s League, where they were so unfortunate as to draw Manchester United, and so talented as to hold them to a scoreless draw at Old Trafford. Barcelona have gone two years without ANY trophies, and suddenly look as if they could take them ALL, but will most likely focus on La Liga and the CL. Atletico are up to their usual underachieving antics, and while that might put them in the category of consolation seekers, I think they’ll be focused on mopping up their domestic disaster and rolling their Champion’s League dice. Of the top clubs, that leaves Sevilla, who I secretly tip as favorites for this competition. Yes, they too are competing in the UEFA cup, where they’ve been brilliant in the past (2 titles in the past 3 years) but I think they’ll be hungry to prove their new look (sans Dani Alves and Keita) in the Copa. Here, at long last, is my final point: with most of the primary competitors staking their bets elsewhere, isn’t this a great chance for Real Madrid, who’ve gone so long without the King’s honors, to put in a decent push? I’d love to hear your thoughts.
So! For those of you who’ve made it this far, and especially those who have done so without skimming: Thanks for reading, and Hala Madrid!
-john
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Hi guys,
Greetings from a madridista in the U.S. As you may be aware Alex Ferguson has recently linked again the history of Real Madrid to the dictatorial regime of Francisco Franco. Nobody from the Real Madrid executive board or PR department (if such a department exists within the club) has taken the necessary steps to respond to this extremely offensive accusations. This is not the first time that Ferguson tries to tarnish Real Madrid legendary history with fake facts regarding the relationship between Franco’s regime and Real Madrid. But at fansdelrealmadrid.com they are trying to set the record straight and make well-known in as many places as possible, the real history of Real Madrid:
Dear Mr. Ferguson,
We fans of Real Madrid -I believe there are several millions around the world- opened the papers yesterday to see that you had got it wrong, once again. Not unlike many Spanish liberal journalists, you awoke Francisco Franco from the grave to make the headlines once again. One would think that the General’s exploits have no end, at least for his bitter enemies – the rest of the world have sent him where he belongs, to history books. It’s unfortunate that your many responsibilities probably haven’t left you time to read some of those books, since they would have saved embarrassment for you and dismay for us.
In the interview I’m referring to, you were speaking about Cristiano Ronaldo and how poorly Real Madrid had behaved, but suddenly, voilá, there’s Franco popping his head again (it wasn’t the first time you tried to link him to Real). These were your exact words as published in The Times on Oct. 28, 2008: “What made it really obscene was that Madrid, as General Franco’s club, had a history of being able to get whoever and whatever they wanted, before democracy came to Spain.” And obscene it is indeed. Too bad it’s an outright lie.
Allow me Mr. Ferguson to inform you of the facts, as I’m sure a distinguished man as you will appreciate the gift of knowledge: There’s never been any respected author or journalist able to establish even a marginal relationship between Real Madrid and Franco’s regime. Furthermore, to the surprise of many, it can be claimed that Franco’s government was harmful to Real Madrid’s interests on several occasions, especially due to our president’s Santiago Bernabéu less-than friendly relationship with the regime. It’s my pleasure to offer you three well-documented articles from the ongoing series “Whiter than you think – Addressing Real Madrid’s black legend”, running on this very site (Chapter one, two and three). I’m sure you’ll find it delicious reading, even if it breaks down all of your misconceptions. But allow me to briefly debunk three of the most popular myths:
1) Real Madrid was incredibly successful during -and thanks to- Franco’s regime. False. During the first 14 years of the General’s mandate (arguably the most strict and propaganda-heavy period), Real Madrid won… zero Spanish national competitions! In the same period, Barcelona and Atlético Aviación (known as Atlético de Madrid these days) raised the trophy on several occasions. It’s interesting to note that the latter club was directly sponsored by the army, nurturing its ranks from players who should have been in the military service. In later years, Madrid and Barça’s national successes were quite even, as can be easily checked.
2) Real Madrid “stole” Di Stéfano from Barça. Absolutely false. The truth is that the player’s rights were hold by two different teams, and Barça refused to negotiate (and pay) to one of them (Millonarios of Bogotá), while Real Madrid did negotiate with the Colombian team. Since neither Madrid nor Barça owned Di Stéfano completely, an independent mediator decided the player would belong to both clubs alternately, but Barcelona preferred to sell their rights to Real Madrid (getting a profit). It was Barcelona’s poor negotiating skills which led Di Stéfano to Real Madrid (complete story here).
3) Barcelona was badly treated by Franco’s government. Once again, completely false. Not only did Barça have notable national success -it wasn’t Franco’s fault that they were unable to win any of their European finals-, but it’s well documented that they received generous help from the regime in at least four occasions: The signing of Hungarian ace Kubala (bypassing several laws of the time) and the legal status change of estate owned by Barcelona on three occasions, resulting in enormous profits for the club. Barça felt so “mistreated” that they conceded two medals to the dictator, the last one as late as in 1974!
Almost everything else regarding the Madrid-Franco relationship is pure defamatory false material, not-so-innocently spread by Real’s haters, but don’t worry, Mr. Ferguson – our top men may have chosen not to defend the club, but its fans will make the truth known. We’ve mostly had a golden and exemplary history, the true stuff of legend, and we want to make it known world-wide. We can assure you that Real has very little to hide.
Your complains that Real Madrid president (Ramón Calderón) and executive board behaved poorly on the Cristiano case: Fair enough, many madridistas think exactly the same, but that gives no one right to try and tarnish the history of the most laureate club in the world. Yes, Calderon may be a disaster, but he will soon be forgotten. You, on the other hand, are living history of Manchester United, and knight of the British Empire, and as such should put some care in your words, being very much the image of your club. Instead, you preferred to use your fame and prestige to try and pass bogus, uninformed arguments as facts, only to vent your anger at the men who tried to take a player away from you. Not exactly what would have been expected from a man of such high reputation. Trying to spoil Real Madrid image, you have only damaged Manchester’s. If Manchester United most representative public figure doesn’t think twice before insulting a club and making a fool of himself, what can we think of ManU as an institution? But we don’t want to commit the same mistake as you did- we think Manchester United is a great club -it’s just that some of their employees -no matter how important- on occasions just aren’t able to match its greatness.
Sincerely,
Fans del Real Madrid Blog
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Wow, great letter, congratulations, hopefully Ferguson will read it and stop making such stupid remarks
As to the Copa del Rey, I would make it more interesting, and here’s how: make it a one game elimination, with the bigger club playing away at the smaller club. I’m we would see many surprises, and the level of football would be better, with only one game to go through…; I think In England they do it like this, and both Cups are fairly entertaining, especially in the opening rounds, where you see all the upsets…
I don’t think we have the team to compete in all 3 fronts; I’d stay focused on La Liga and CL, but that’s just my opinion…
Take care everybody, and Corey, again, I’m going to the Madrid-Malaga game on November 9th, please send me an email to camador1976@hotmail.com, so I can have your address and send you some pictures from our sanctuary!!!
HALA MADRID!!!
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Nice post by John!
And equally impressive comment from Madridista.
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Goalkeepers: Dudek, Codina
Defenders: Javi García, Metzelder, Marcelo, Salgado, Ramos, Antón, Velayos, Heinze
Midfielders: De la Red, Diarra, Sneijder
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Great article john I too hope madrid will take the cup a little more seriously but as corey said I don’t thnk we’ have a deep enough squad to go for the treble but ya never know anything is possible in footy
Madridista yours was equally as great there are some stuff in it I didn’t know myself I will now use some of those info to silence some jack ass fans who like fergie claim we were helped by franco’s regime
I’ll also make sure I visit your websiteAnd corey you going to the malaga gam,e ? You are the luckiest dude ever
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Wow good stuff john. Great read.
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Props to John for a great article. The Copa del Rey has been devalued for many years and it no longer commands the attention of the big clubs. This is for a couple of reasons, which don’t look like getting fixed any time soon.
1. The top clubs now play a lot more fixtures per year, with the Champions League group stages. This leaves less time to concentrate on ’smaller’ competitions.
2. The prize is not big enough. If the top 4 in the League get access to the CL and winning the Copa only gets you into UEFA, you’re only going to concentrate on it if your season is already in tatters.
A couple of things that might help this ailing competition is to give the winners direct access to the CL and also to make all the rounds single matches, much like the FA cup in England. This would reduce the fixture congestion and give an incentive to the bigger clubs to use it as more than training for their non-match-fit players.
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i would like the copa del rey in our trophy cabinet. the reasons are various. our three wise old men raul,guti and salgado haven’t won this one. they have come within touching distance twice only for the run to end in heartbreak. same goes for our club. so that is the sentimental reason.
another is that competition and pressure levels being what they are nowadays , youth teamers can’t be given the chance to prove themselves in the liga. so this competition provides them with a chance to show-off their talents. if they impress big time in the copa , maybe bernadine would give them a chance with the first team.if a team full of youngsters wins the copa del rey , then it is a sure testament to their talent.corey , what about that best ever XI article ?? hope ya haven’t forgotten , mate.
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nice article , john. you should enter it for the soccerlens.com writing competition. although it is one that concerns mainly us , madridistas.
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Thanks for the compliments, guys, and thank you Corey for posting it! I agree with your comments on what could be done to improve the Cup. I also agree it could be better organized and more competitive, but I still like the fact that it’s a distinctly Spanish tournament, and we get to see some promising new faces. Keep your eyes on Jorge Molina, who scored a hat trick in Polideportivo Ejido’s 5-0 thrashing of Villarreal’s B-team (which, unfortunately, included Jozy Altidore).
Interesting that Real are only brining 3 midfielders to the game, unless they plan on playing Garcia in that position. Any predictions as to the line up?
And great letter, Madridista. Here’s what Calderon had to say (to Marca): “I’m not going to waste any time answering him, I admire his record, but he is getting old.”
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